Comments on: Is Firefox Falling Behind in the Browser Wars? https://lesliefranke.com/2006/02/is-firefox-falling-behind-in-the-browser-wars/ Thoughts on Strategy and Web Design Thu, 10 Apr 2008 07:26:23 +0000 hourly 1 http://wordpress.org/?v=3.0-RC2 By: ROBO Design https://lesliefranke.com/2006/02/is-firefox-falling-behind-in-the-browser-wars/#comment-588 ROBO Design Sat, 22 Apr 2006 16:58:31 +0000 http://lesliefranke.com/2006/02/14/is-firefox-falling-behind-in-the-browser-wars/#comment-588 I don't entirely agree. For one, Firefox is still MUCH more powerful in comparison to IE 7. Firefox is not stalling as a project. How about IE? It took many years to get IE 7. Firefox is being worked and will continue to do so. Same goes for Opera. It's a very powerful, constantly updated, browser compared to IE 6 (and IE 7). Is the security improving in IE 7? Yes. Standards support? Yes. How much? Very little. That's the problem. The memory problem in Firefox is not huge. The browser is being improved and fixed. IE 7 is not good (enough): no DOM improvements, very few CSS improvements, sporting an ugly interface. It's just hype over nothing. After aprox. 5 years IE 7 is just a toy upgrade. The one thing I agree with you is Firefox market share growth will slow down with the release of IE 7. It might even lose some market share percentages. Thanks to The Hypeâ„¢. I don’t entirely agree.

For one, Firefox is still MUCH more powerful in comparison to IE 7.

Firefox is not stalling as a project. How about IE? It took many years to get IE 7. Firefox is being worked and will continue to do so.

Same goes for Opera. It’s a very powerful, constantly updated, browser compared to IE 6 (and IE 7).

Is the security improving in IE 7? Yes. Standards support? Yes. How much? Very little. That’s the problem.

The memory problem in Firefox is not huge. The browser is being improved and fixed.

IE 7 is not good (enough): no DOM improvements, very few CSS improvements, sporting an ugly interface. It’s just hype over nothing. After aprox. 5 years IE 7 is just a toy upgrade.

The one thing I agree with you is Firefox market share growth will slow down with the release of IE 7. It might even lose some market share percentages. Thanks to The Hypeâ„¢.

]]> By: Leslie Franke https://lesliefranke.com/2006/02/is-firefox-falling-behind-in-the-browser-wars/#comment-530 Leslie Franke Fri, 17 Feb 2006 03:08:00 +0000 http://lesliefranke.com/2006/02/14/is-firefox-falling-behind-in-the-browser-wars/#comment-530 Zoppa..I have tried the Opera web developer toolbar. It is nice but not as full featured as Firefox's. I use it sometimes to fix problems with how pages render in Opera. Opera's User JS, and for the time being their widgets suffer from one problem. The lack of developers focusing on creating new ones. I belief this is the one thing that truly seperates Firefox from Opera. Zoppa..I have tried the Opera web developer toolbar. It is nice but not as full featured as Firefox’s. I use it sometimes to fix problems with how pages render in Opera. Opera’s User JS, and for the time being their widgets suffer from one problem. The lack of developers focusing on creating new ones. I belief this is the one thing that truly seperates Firefox from Opera.

]]> By: Leslie Franke https://lesliefranke.com/2006/02/is-firefox-falling-behind-in-the-browser-wars/#comment-529 Leslie Franke Fri, 17 Feb 2006 03:04:14 +0000 http://lesliefranke.com/2006/02/14/is-firefox-falling-behind-in-the-browser-wars/#comment-529 Ashton...You are not going to get a argument from me that the new preview of Opera is nice. As to the user inferface it is all about the way you set things up. You can almost make Firefox act like Opera. I personally prefer Firefox's interface better as I have more control over exactly how I can set things up. As to bit torrent support, it is a nice trick but something that most users do not need. Thus it is probably better as an extension like the upcoming All Peers extension. Ashton…You are not going to get a argument from me that the new preview of Opera is nice. As to the user inferface it is all about the way you set things up. You can almost make Firefox act like Opera. I personally prefer Firefox’s interface better as I have more control over exactly how I can set things up. As to bit torrent support, it is a nice trick but something that most users do not need. Thus it is probably better as an extension like the upcoming All Peers extension.

]]> By: Zoppa https://lesliefranke.com/2006/02/is-firefox-falling-behind-in-the-browser-wars/#comment-528 Zoppa Thu, 16 Feb 2006 11:43:02 +0000 http://lesliefranke.com/2006/02/14/is-firefox-falling-behind-in-the-browser-wars/#comment-528 I'd just like to point out a couple of things: 1. Opera web dev toolbar: http://nontroppo.org/wiki/WebDevToolbar 2. Opera has User JS, which is "Greasemonkey", only built in. Check out userjs.org. The Performancing thing looks like it would be possible to do in Opera as well. I’d just like to point out a couple of things:

1. Opera web dev toolbar: http://nontroppo.org/wiki/WebDevToolbar
2. Opera has User JS, which is “Greasemonkey”, only built in. Check out userjs.org.

The Performancing thing looks like it would be possible to do in Opera as well.

]]> By: Ashton https://lesliefranke.com/2006/02/is-firefox-falling-behind-in-the-browser-wars/#comment-527 Ashton Thu, 16 Feb 2006 04:42:06 +0000 http://lesliefranke.com/2006/02/14/is-firefox-falling-behind-in-the-browser-wars/#comment-527 After trying the Opera 9 tech preview, I don't see myself using either IE or FF in the future. It's a lot faster than both other browsers, it's compatible, it has the best user designed interface of the three and it has a native bit torrent client integrated After trying the Opera 9 tech preview, I don’t see myself using either IE or FF in the future. It’s a lot faster than both other browsers, it’s compatible, it has the best user designed interface of the three and it has a native bit torrent client integrated

]]> By: Leslie Franke https://lesliefranke.com/2006/02/is-firefox-falling-behind-in-the-browser-wars/#comment-526 Leslie Franke Wed, 15 Feb 2006 20:27:32 +0000 http://lesliefranke.com/2006/02/14/is-firefox-falling-behind-in-the-browser-wars/#comment-526 Heathen...That is a good point about Ben Goodger's line. I read over it quickly the first time, it does sound like something right out of Microsoft's playbook. Heathen…That is a good point about Ben Goodger’s line. I read over it quickly the first time, it does sound like something right out of Microsoft’s playbook.

]]> By: Leslie Franke https://lesliefranke.com/2006/02/is-firefox-falling-behind-in-the-browser-wars/#comment-525 Leslie Franke Wed, 15 Feb 2006 20:22:44 +0000 http://lesliefranke.com/2006/02/14/is-firefox-falling-behind-in-the-browser-wars/#comment-525 Omar... I should have been more clear in my statement about the memory. Most of the complaining that is being done seems to be around extension issues or, for example, people who have "25 tabs" open at once. You are right about having 256 MB of RAM and some people getting memory problems. As for Firefox extensions this is one of the main things that keeps me from using Opera. I "could not live" without a few extensions I use. It will be interesting to see where Opera goes with widgets on both the desktop and mobile versions. Omar… I should have been more clear in my statement about the memory. Most of the complaining that is being done seems to be around extension issues or, for example, people who have “25 tabs” open at once. You are right about having 256 MB of RAM and some people getting memory problems. As for Firefox extensions this is one of the main things that keeps me from using Opera. I “could not live” without a few extensions I use. It will be interesting to see where Opera goes with widgets on both the desktop and mobile versions.

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